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	<title>Comments on: Are Your Children Excited to be in God&#8217;s House?</title>
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		<title>By: Rev. Gary R. Linn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Gary R. Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for participating in the CMIV.  I believe we have the same perspective, so let me clarify what I was communicating through this post. I agree with your comments:
 
- &quot;Experiencing God&quot; is more broad than down at the front, on your knees and crying..
- it also includes things like just being quiet for a while before God, serving others in a very practical and tangible way, enjoying creation, and yes in the midst of the fun and action-oriented activities
- it also happens in the relationships kids have with one another and with the adult leaders
- Just because we don&#039;t &quot;experience God&quot; in more ways indicative of those in Pentecostalism does not mean we don&#039;t experience God
 
These points, though, are not the intended focus of the article.  The article is summarized in the sentence, &quot;Too often, the thrilling and exhilarating is so focused upon that the eternal is skimmed over.&quot;
 
To some, church has become no more than a social charity-type organization.  The challenge from the article is to motivate leaders toward earnest discipleship over their flock.
 
It is impossible to discuss all aspects of any topic in one short post.  All the aspects of &quot;experiencing God&quot; are not intended to be covered in this post, rather one specific aspect that is essential for children to have, and yet they are often not given the opportunity.  The phrase &quot;altar and worship&quot; which created the picture in your mind of Pentecostalism is not at all what is being referred to here.  As we&#039;ve worked inter-denominationally for so many years, and always have altar and worship times in those services, the concept of Pentecostal experience was not in mind when writing the article.  &lt;u&gt;The examples of worship and altar refer to a time for children to verbally express love to God and listen for His voice.&lt;/u&gt;  Frequently, children are neither &lt;em&gt;given the opportunity&lt;/em&gt; for such experience or &lt;em&gt;discipled as how to develop those abilities&lt;/em&gt; of expressing love to God and listening.  For this particular experience to never take place in the life of a child would be tragic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for participating in the CMIV.  I believe we have the same perspective, so let me clarify what I was communicating through this post. I agree with your comments:</p>
<p>- &#8220;Experiencing God&#8221; is more broad than down at the front, on your knees and crying..<br />
- it also includes things like just being quiet for a while before God, serving others in a very practical and tangible way, enjoying creation, and yes in the midst of the fun and action-oriented activities<br />
- it also happens in the relationships kids have with one another and with the adult leaders<br />
- Just because we don&#8217;t &#8220;experience God&#8221; in more ways indicative of those in Pentecostalism does not mean we don&#8217;t experience God</p>
<p>These points, though, are not the intended focus of the article.  The article is summarized in the sentence, &#8220;Too often, the thrilling and exhilarating is so focused upon that the eternal is skimmed over.&#8221;</p>
<p>To some, church has become no more than a social charity-type organization.  The challenge from the article is to motivate leaders toward earnest discipleship over their flock.</p>
<p>It is impossible to discuss all aspects of any topic in one short post.  All the aspects of &#8220;experiencing God&#8221; are not intended to be covered in this post, rather one specific aspect that is essential for children to have, and yet they are often not given the opportunity.  The phrase &#8220;altar and worship&#8221; which created the picture in your mind of Pentecostalism is not at all what is being referred to here.  As we&#8217;ve worked inter-denominationally for so many years, and always have altar and worship times in those services, the concept of Pentecostal experience was not in mind when writing the article.  <u>The examples of worship and altar refer to a time for children to verbally express love to God and listen for His voice.</u>  Frequently, children are neither <em>given the opportunity</em> for such experience or <em>discipled as how to develop those abilities</em> of expressing love to God and listening.  For this particular experience to never take place in the life of a child would be tragic.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Zonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Zonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you are saying, but the way balance looks like in each church will be different... as well as the idea of what &quot;experiential&quot; means as well. You have defined it very narrowly as &quot;altar time and worship.&quot; &quot;Experiencing God&quot; is more broad than down at the front, on your knees and crying... it also includes things like just being quiet for a while before God, serving others in a very practical and tangible way, enjoying creation, and yes in the midst of the fun and action-oriented activities... it also happens in the relationships kids have with one another and with the adult leaders... Just because we don&#039;t &quot;experience God&quot; in more ways indicative of those in Pentacostalism does not mean we don&#039;t experience God. In addition, limiting the definition of &quot;experiencing God&quot; to altar times and worship can cause a lot of guilt and confusion in kids who aren&#039;t wired to experience God in that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you are saying, but the way balance looks like in each church will be different&#8230; as well as the idea of what &#8220;experiential&#8221; means as well. You have defined it very narrowly as &#8220;altar time and worship.&#8221; &#8220;Experiencing God&#8221; is more broad than down at the front, on your knees and crying&#8230; it also includes things like just being quiet for a while before God, serving others in a very practical and tangible way, enjoying creation, and yes in the midst of the fun and action-oriented activities&#8230; it also happens in the relationships kids have with one another and with the adult leaders&#8230; Just because we don&#8217;t &#8220;experience God&#8221; in more ways indicative of those in Pentacostalism does not mean we don&#8217;t experience God. In addition, limiting the definition of &#8220;experiencing God&#8221; to altar times and worship can cause a lot of guilt and confusion in kids who aren&#8217;t wired to experience God in that way.</p>
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